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COP & MSD combo, Who is gonna try this?
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:55 am
by Gaskleppie
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:41 pm
by JaredKaragen
u said MSD... i am afraid to click the link
that looks exactly like the kit some guy tried to get interest on before on pgmfi.org... but it actually has descriptions... I am almost sure it is the same thing. I would consider trying it... I wouldn't be surprised if it was not very dissimilar to the COP board I am in the middle of trying to make, and crammed into the ecu... He must have been creative and made the extra circuit to convert the pickup signal (a-to-d) as to not need a raw digital signal from the ECU... but who knows... my setup just requires me to run a single wire out to the dizzy through the OEM harness for CYP sense as it is a PITA to do A-D conversions.. lots of R&D =)
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:01 am
by Gaskleppie
I ment MSD as MultiSparkDischarge
Anyhow, Its wonderful how he made it so compact inside the wire harness. Would it make any extra power? This movie shows a nice strong spark compared to the stock spark:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CarHackerTe ... 9lQNsQiXL0
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:23 pm
by Bindegal
So the question is... Is this an actual product on the market? \"Where to buy\"?
/Allan
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:34 pm
by Gaskleppie
More info:
http://en.car-hacker.net/node/12 http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2727061 first results:
this was back to back testing this afternoon here on our dyno! the car is my daily driver 95 hatchback with a stock gsr motor tuned on hondata s300! the only mods are jg edlebrock header and pos short ram intake! i tuned open exhaust beacuase the car still has stock SI catback! i wanted to be sure the cat or exhaust made no changes in the testing! I tuned the car with the distributor \"stock\" first and pulled the wires off and pluged in the dsd 2 which took about 2 minutes! the first pass i made #34 was to get the car to operating temp. and then the next pass netted small but effective results im not trying beat the car up to tune or make more power cause the dsd is staying on the car and going back to stock exhaust! the dynojet o2 was a little off compared to the plx wideband and was 12.9 ish to 13.1. i wasnt caring about the lowcam its alot lean. i will be doing some back to back tests on the same when i put the turbo on! it will be the same gt35r that we ran in lisa's car to see how much better the spark will be for the blown option! hope this give everyone a postive outlook on how this cop setup may help us get rid of the crappy honda ignitor. we will be stocking this product very soon after the testing is compleated! hope everyone enjoys the results! A train is offline Report Post Reply With Quote
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:54 pm
by BillB
My mate is working on a system that will remove the dizzy & use a pick ups from the cam gears as well as COP. Which COP units are they? I have another mate that runs a AEM ECU on his Civic & he runs Audi coils IIRC. This same mate is currently building a four channel EGT amplifier as well as loads of other stuff when he gets time
Bill
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:13 pm
by Gaskleppie
Which COP units are they?
I thought they were OEM Honda D17 coils
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:36 pm
by Garrett
interesting
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:54 pm
by Bugermass
Not worth 3 HP ... Specially considering I've made 800 on stock dizzy. If your gonna do COP your better off going stand alone and doing it right.
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:24 pm
by xenocron
Bugermass wrote:Not worth 3 HP ... Specially considering I've made 800 on stock dizzy. If your gonna do COP your better off going stand alone and doing it right.
You wouldnt have said that 2 years ago...
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:48 am
by Bugermass
Yeah, well I've matured lol.. Decieded its not worth screwing with stuff to half ass a solution when there are way better solutions out there.
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:52 pm
by Vtec6000
Your getting spoilt working with all the nice stuff Chris
The one thing I like about COP setup's in general is they tend to give a better idle and power delivery is smoother due to the stronger spark I guess...
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:33 pm
by Bugermass
Just put a MSD HVC II coil and a CDI and you'll have better results.
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:07 pm
by JaredKaragen
I myself an still going to be trying the diy version in the requested features section here. Less than $50 in parts spent so it's worth getting the project finished once I set up a workbench at the new domacile