Show your wideband!

Bindegal · Post by **Bindegal** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:01 am

Seems like IÂ´m still the only one geeky enough to have an internal wideband inside the ECU

I donÂ´t like tuning with the wideband in the tailpipe. Too long reaction time especially at idle and low load... of course sometimes IÂ´ll have to make do with the tailpipe sniffer method, but itÂ´s always the last option. /Allan

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:19 pm

Bindegal wrote:Seems like IÂ´m still the only one geeky enough to have an internal wideband inside the ECU

what do you mean internal wideband?

Bindegal wrote:I donÂ´t like tuning with the wideband in the tailpipe. Too long reaction time especially at idle and low load... of course sometimes IÂ´ll have to make do with the tailpipe sniffer method, but itÂ´s always the last option. /Allan

I use the dyno wideband (LM-1) for the dynoruns datalog, and my wideband (LM-1) for all the tuning cruising, deceleration et WOT dyno runs so I able to compare both wideband

Bindegal · Post by **Bindegal** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:22 pm

Garrett wrote:
Bindegal wrote:Seems like IÂ´m still the only one geeky enough to have an internal wideband inside the ECU
what do you mean internal wideband?

Look at my first post in this thread. Wideband controller is built into the ECU. It even does LSU 4.9 now which is more accurate and has a wider AFR range than the usual old style 7057 LSU 4.2 that most other widebands still use. Near 0 time spent on wiring and much less cable clutter in the car as I tune. /Allan

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:45 pm

I saw just the exterior of the ecu, I don't see the interior which brand of controler is it?

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:04 am

Bindegal · Post by **Bindegal** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:22 am

ItÂ´s the tech edge 2D0 built into a P28. (picture shows the more recent 2D1 but itÂ´s the same deal) The XLR-like connector coming from the right side of the ECU is the sensor cable. The 2D0 board sits where the knock board would have been in some P30Â´s. 2D0/2D1 works with LSU 4.0/4.2/4.9 sensors. /Allan

Coupe-r · Post by **Coupe-r** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:47 pm

looks cool. How does it compare for speed/accuracy/price/ vs the LC-1?

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:24 pm

bindegal, sweet find, link to sellers? i want one!

Coupe-r · Post by **Coupe-r** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:18 pm

he prob got it from wb02.com in Australia Very much a DIY wideband setup, not ready to go out of the box. People complain about LC-1 for wiring, hahaha Also its quite a bit more expensive than the LC-1, and comes in a raw PCB board format. I'll stick with LC-1 (but that techedge is cool)

Post by **calvin** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:41 am

i have one here that you buy assembled... And believe me it's good... Way better then LC-1

Bindegal · Post by **Bindegal** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:48 am

Yes I got it from australia. If anyone is interested in reselling the Tech Edge products, I know that Peter is eager to enter the US market somehow. If someone wants to, I can make the introductions. Let me know

The 2D0/2D1 does come assembled though. ItÂ´s a product originally designed for an OEM you can use to build into what ever device needs a wideband controller. So \"by design\" it doesenÂ´t have a case. If you want that, thereÂ´s plenty of other products to choose from. I looked at the 2C0 as an alternative to the LC-1. It seems like a far better product to me, but it is also more expensive of course. ItÂ´s much easier to use, as all connections are made with - you guessed it - CONNECTORS. And not hi-fi old style DIN and DC connectors that fall out just by looking at them. And it has LEDÂ´s built in which actually tell you if thereÂ´s a fault. My limited time spent with LC-1Â´s have brought me far more headaches than 3 years with Tech Edge products... no kidding... /Allan

RoadXY · Post by **RoadXY** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:26 am

There is an WB02 product wich allows you to record up to 1Mb of data!

Coupe-r · Post by **Coupe-r** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:44 pm

For the price I love my LC-1. Very accurate, very fast. Bad points: Setup time, gotta wire it correctly went through 1 O2 sensor in 1 week of use on a stock ITR with pump gas! (second sensor has lasted on 5 different cars with tuning and still going great) Techedge is better I can see, but more pricy. (About twice the price my LC-1 cost me!!) However no one has mentioned the accuracy, and speed vs LC-1. I believe LC-1 is ontop in those areas (however techedge has not been reviewed yet) P.S what output would you use to connect a linear voltage to D14 on the ecu? One of the WBlin outputs on the green connector im guessing? Also can ectune log the RS232 techedge serial stream?

Coupe-r · Post by **Coupe-r** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:16 pm

just read the way techedge reducing ground offsets. Im no electronics expert but read this page: http://www.wbo2.com/sw/wblinout.htm To me it seems to be its the same as connecting the LC-1 sensor output to D14 and system ground to D22 on the ECU. and Power + Ground to A25 and A26 ECU pins. That way the LC-1 will reference the same ground and the ECU (logger) thats my way of thinking from day 1 and has worked for me. IS THIS THE SAME AS THE TECHEDGE IDEA? Or have they added in extra features/circuts to prevent ground offsets? (of course this doesn't apply for ectune) I.E techedge=WBLIN + and WBLIN- LC-1=isn't that analog 1&2 and system ground (white wire)

combz · Post by **combz** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:03 pm

I don't have a serial input on my laptop, can i just use a serial to usb?\\And then at this point (assuming i have the power and ground etc. hooked up right, ectune will be able to read from the lm-1? i have an Lm-1. also, how did u guys rig it up so that you could power the wideband from the battery? i have a couple of clamps that i can use, but i need to see a picture of how you actually would wire those up to make it work for power and ground for the wideband. This is very noob question for such an advanced post...but i feel like its unclear for a beginner how to do it. made my own thread in hardware section. http://forum.ectune.com/viewtopic.php?t=1211