Main Relay Clicks all the time

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:19 pm

Well i've been tuning a lot today but ran into a problem. When i have the ostrich 1 connected or disconnected the main relay clicks then my idle surges and it keeps clicking even though i am doing nothing to the cal. So im pretty much stuck with relay clicking and a surging engine. Oh and my datalogging is all screwy to. It only works when the KOEO but as soon as i turn the car on it stops working. so i basically tune just reading my wideband. heres the cal...

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:45 pm

How old is your ostrich? Any chance of dirty/oxidized contacts? Depending on age the cable could be finnicky, too much movement over time and they can develop intermittant problems. Anytime I had relay issues like that it was the cable.

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:06 pm

i think i have had both the hulog and ostrich since 2005. I will try a different cable tomorrow. will report back. thanks

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:01 pm

okay well the constant clicking is gone now but only does it when i tune. funny it never did it before i could make changes to the fuel map and it would not click and surge. datalogging is not working at all (not ectunes fault). It only worked for about a week when i got it back in 2005. Like i said before it still connects to the ecu when KOEO but when i start the engine it stops. Im a computer technician and its so frustrating when i cant get this hardware to work. so im guessing its either the cable thats connects to the ecu or the hulog itself.

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:36 pm

Definately an emi/rfi issue :/. Can't say more than try new cables/more grounds

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:45 am

Okay added about 5 grounds. Alternator to frame, distributor to negative battery, Inatake Manifold to frame, added another transmission ground, and a starter ground. Still did not fix the datalogging but it did smooth the car throughout the rpm range. Question the coil i have is similar to the msd blaster coil 2. Can i take the ground off of the positive connection on the coil and put it on the frame? When i got the coil it said to put both the positive and negative on the positive end and the tach on the negative. Oh and the relay clicks after i connect the hulog now. Do i have to reset the ecu after i connect and disconnect to keep it from clicking? oh i also have nology cool wires could those create a high emi?

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:03 am

92bluepreludesi wrote:Okay added about 5 grounds. Alternator to frame, distributor to negative battery, Inatake Manifold to frame, added another transmission ground, and a starter ground. Still did not fix the datalogging but it did smooth the car throughout the rpm range. Question the coil i have is similar to the msd blaster coil 2. Can i take the ground off of the positive connection on the coil and put it on the frame? When i got the coil it said to put both the positive and negative on the positive end and the tach on the negative. Oh and the relay clicks after i connect the hulog now. Do i have to reset the ecu after i connect and disconnect to keep it from clicking? oh i also have nology cool wires could those create a high emi?

it is known msd products add emi, especially if near the distributor pickups.. I believe this may be the bulk of your problem... Oem works awesome honestly.

David974 · Post by **David974** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:58 am

Have you already changed you ostrich's battery? check your ostrich ribbon carrefully near the eprom plug

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:48 pm

Yea thats what i thought. The reason why i was using this coil is because my oem one cracked and started arching. So i guess i will have to invest in a new or reman here soon. I have never changed the batteries in the ostrich suprised they lasted this long. Would em i looking for on the ribbon cable near the eprom?

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:58 pm

Look at the area where the ribbon cable mates to the ostrich connector and EEPROM connector.. Your looking for excessive bending/stress on the area where the pins on the connector poke throughthe ribbon cable..... Since it is a crimped fit, it is very easy for it to oxidize and create a bad contact over time. 3 times now I have had to cut my cable shorter and re crimp it as to have good connections again.... But for the normal user it is alot easier to just buy a new cable from moates.... They are relatively inexpensive.

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:49 pm

okay weird... my step dad won a mini laptop in a golf tournament. Has win xp on there and loaded up ectune just the free one and the datalogging works. Its slow as hell but it works!

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:07 pm

nm just worked for about 1 minute than stopped...

David974 · Post by **David974** » Sat May 01, 2010 12:28 am

Do you use autoscan to find your com port? if yes, disable and retry

92bluepreludesi · Post by **92bluepreludesi** » Sat May 01, 2010 2:47 am

yea i tried setting them manually and still no go. I will be buying a oem coil soon hopefully that stop the high emi if thats it at all. will report back when i get it and hook it up.