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Ignition Corrections

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:40 pm
by turbine tuning
I read somewhere I can disable all ignition corrections in boost. Where can I find that feature? I don't know whether I should zero the corrections out on the dyno or not because of high iat's and ect's. I think i'm pulling 3 degrees after ect is 210. Let me know, thanks.

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:06 pm
by Gaskleppie
first page in parameters....

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:50 am
by turbine tuning
ok i disabled corrections under boost but for some reason my actual ignition logs shown4-5 degrees lower than table readings. why is this?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:37 am
by Bindegal
Your CAL + logfile should reveal what´s going on. Use the logs, it really is an amazing tool to diagnose these kinds of issues. /Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:28 am
by turbine tuning
haha i did use the logs. that's how i know that there's a difference in table and ignition readings. i just can't figure out why. timing is synced at 16, corrections are disabled under boost. thanks.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:26 pm
by Bindegal
The log should shows which corrections are in effect. If you want help diagnosing this, you need to upload the CAL and logfile. That´s really the only way Calvin or someone else knowledgable can help you. Anything else would result in endless guesswork. /Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:43 pm
by turbine tuning
i emailed the cal and log to calvin last week, just waiting for a response. here it is. thanks for the help.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:42 pm
by Bindegal
From what I can tell, eCtune does as it is supposed to do. -IAT is very high = IAT ign. corrections active. -ECT is very high = ECT ign. corrections active. -TPS is constant -1%. Thus the ECU thinks you´re idling. Causing idle ign. corrections to be active because the \"idle\" is obviously high as you´re driving along :) If TPS was working and IAT=lower and ECT=lower (like not 101 celcius!) your table ign would match final ign perfectly. ECT/IAT etc. trims are always active, also above 1034 mbar even though you check the \"disable ign corrections above\" box. /Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:02 pm
by turbine tuning
wow thanks a lot for the help. it makes a lot of sense now. do you think i should zero out the corrections for now since it is between 85 and 95 degrees F out here in the summer? my iat's and ect's just won't go down. can i start with lower timing and 0 correction and gradually bring it up while checking plugs? thanks again.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:34 pm
by Bindegal
I would probably just tune the tables and let the ign/iat corrections do their thing at the default settings. /Allan

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:09 pm
by turbine tuning
ok but then in the winter when my iat's and ect's go below correction level my timing will be higher since it's not pulling anything. will i have to just retune then? thanks.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:16 pm
by Bindegal
As I understand it.... With lower IAT and ECT, your knock threshold should be higher, allowing for more timing. And this is also one point for using an intercooler, by the way. :) That´s the whole point of the compensation tables... They are there for a reason. But hey, It´s your engine, tune for whatever makes you feel more safe. In my book, timing should never be left on the bleeding edge anyway. The tables are there to ensure you don´t have to tune manually for every conceivable temperature... makes sense? /Allan

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:36 pm
by turbine tuning
i understand, you're absolutely right. i will work on bringing my temps down. i got the tps working today so it's not correcting that anymore. thanks for the help.