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Honda Prelude and eCtune?????????????????
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:30 pm
by thething96
Hi, don't know how true this is, but I'm being told that a 99' Prelude SH with ATTS can't use eCtune? All this because with eCtune, the ATTS won't work. How true is this? Thanks.
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:54 pm
by 98vtec
its not just ectune. Its the fact that you have to run an OBD1 computer to be able to run ectune (just like all the other OBD1 tuning systems). When you remove the factory SH computer, the atts computer does not work and renders the ATTS unit dead and inoperable.
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:55 pm
by thething96
Even though OBD 1 ecu's can't support the ATTS, will the vehicle still run with a non-working ATTS?
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:18 pm
by calvin
ATTS?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:24 am
by 98vtec
thething96 wrote:Even though OBD 1 ecu's can't support the ATTS, will the vehicle still run with a non-working ATTS?
yes, it will become dead weight. ATTS is essentially an electronically control clutch unit for the axles. Active Torque Transfer System.
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:48 pm
by thething96
Thank you very much for response.
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:41 pm
by calvin
i have ran ectune in JDM prelude with tiptronic
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:34 am
by borat
SportShift != ATTS Also, Tiptronic == Porsche, SportShift == Honda. ATTS is an active differential system that can send torque back and forth across the axle. It relies on its own computer, and is therefore incompatible with ECU swapping. It's still in use today on vehicles such as the Acura TL SH-AWD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SH-AWD#Development Should I be worried that all of this needs to be explained to someone who specializes in Hondas?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:28 am
by calvin
not at all i guess.... i'm not god...

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:38 pm
by 98vtec
borat wrote: Should I be worried that all of this needs to be explained to someone who specializes in Hondas?

the prelude is the red headed step child of honda performance....
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:29 am
by thething96
As far as I know, the only way to tune a Prelude with ATTS and still retain it would be with a Greddy E-Manage or a VAFC. Doesn't seem like it would be impossible to have eCtune able to activate the ATTS, right?
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:13 am
by relic1
there is a communication line between the ECU and ATTS unit that needs to be there. I'm not sure what it communicates or what protocol it uses, but without that the ATTS is dead. I've been working with a guy that has an ATTS Lude that he's looking to build up a little, the car is currently not running or I'd have more info on the communication between the ATTS and ECU.
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:30 am
by TheGuardian
thething96 wrote:As far as I know, the only way to tune a Prelude with ATTS and still retain it would be with a Greddy E-Manage or a VAFC. Doesn't seem like it would be impossible to have eCtune able to activate the ATTS, right?
Another, supposedly better, alternative to the e-manage or the VAFC would be AEM's F/IC. For a piggy back controller its actually fairly flexible... More info:
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.as ... goryID=116 Although if someone could figure out the purpose of the ATTS communication line to the ECU and emulate it, we'd be golden.

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:20 pm
by borat
AEM F/IC would be the way to go if you have to have ATTS. However, I've heard that ATTS starts acting up at around 250hp, so it's probably better to get rid of it anyway.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2307566