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				switching from crome to eCtune question
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:44 am
				by pandorasbox
				Hello, I had my stock Z6 tuned on e85 with Crome Pro by my tuner. I have undergone an engine build with Vitaras and FJR custom rods and I want to switch to eCtune and tune myself. I've been studying Crome for a while and did some reading on eCtune's software and support and you guys run a much better ship here!     Soooo, my question is I have a chipped P28 with a burned chip installed with my tune for the stock motor on e85 and I was wondering if there was anyway to transfer that .bin to eCtune?     I don't have the .bin on my computer since I didn't tune it, could it be read by a burner and then loaded to eCtune for a good starting point?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:20 am
				by relic1
				the tune can be read from the chip and used as a reference, but it's not transferable into eCtune.    Keep in mind you also need an emulator to run eCtune.  Ostrich or Demon work the best.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:38 am
				by pandorasbox
				Thanks for the reply! I currently have an Ostrich 2.0 but I'm planning on running the demon/eCtune combo, seems like a really legit setup.     I will have to locate a device to read my current chip. Would a moates burn device read the chip?     I apologize for the newbish questions, this will be my first experience tuning.     I don't have the eCtune software yet so I'm unfamiliar with what kind of tools I will have to work with and if the 2 programs are very similar.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:46 am
				by jpjackson
				ectune is the best, crome sucks, i personally rune the ostrich 2.0 but the demon is the best, it does the dataloging also, if you use the ostrich you have to get the extream hulog to datalog, and also a wideband, i have been useing the innovate lc-1 for 2 months now and it has serial out so no offset issues, so make sure you get either the lc-1 or lm-2 from innovate motorsports.  check out 
www.xenocron.com , the guys there know there stuff and they have awesome service, they sell everything you will need.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:53 am
				by IHaveTurbos
				pandorasbox wrote:Thanks for the reply! I currently have an Ostrich 2.0 but I'm planning on running the demon/eCtune combo, seems like a really legit setup.     I will have to locate a device to read my current chip. Would a moates burn device read the chip?     I apologize for the newbish questions, this will be my first experience tuning.     I don't have the eCtune software yet so I'm unfamiliar with what kind of tools I will have to work with and if the 2 programs are very similar.
    Yes the Moates Burner will read your current chip. And eCtune is similar to crome but way more stable and features that actually work like they are supposed to.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:28 am
				by pandorasbox
				Hey thanks for the replies guys! Already I'm loving the support of this site! Alright so I'm 100% set on eCtune now! I spoke with my tuner and he strongly dislikes the LC-1, he says to run the AEM UEGO. Now what kind of offset issues might I run into with the AEM? If there is a good place for me to read more about this just toss up a link so I'm not being a total parasite. haha    I think I'll be purchasing the demon/eCtune combo this week so that may answer a lot of my questions getting to toy around with it, like I did with Crome.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:28 am
				by TopMountGSR
				AEM < Innovate    AEM has a analog output, Innovate has a serial output    I'd pick the NGK or PLX over a AEM any day.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:14 pm
				by relic1
				TopMountGSR wrote:AEM < Innovate    AEM has a analog output, Innovate has a serial output    I'd pick the NGK or PLX over a AEM any day.
  agreed.      pandorasbox - if you'd like a taste, download the free version of eCtune from the main page to mess with the program itself.  Then when you purchase you can simply plug in the license code, update and be on your way. 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:29 pm
				by pandorasbox
				Awesome! I'll do just that. I can't wait to order the demon combo!     You guys have been a huge help! Thanks! I can't wait to get started with this program!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:19 pm
				by DSMR
				TopMountGSR wrote:AEM < Innovate    AEM has a analog output, Innovate has a serial output    I'd pick the NGK or PLX over a AEM any day.
    AEM has serial also.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:48 pm
				by pandorasbox
				well I'm attempting to download the free version without success so far. It's getting stuck at the Installing.NET Framework 3.5 and a second window thats for the Component Configuration. It's been 20 minutes and neither are getting anywhere.  

     So the AEM will work with eCtune the same way as the LC-1 via the serial output?    Thanks for all the replies guys!
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:51 am
				by pandorasbox
				I got this after like 20 minutes or so:    Component .NET Framework 3.5 has failed to install with the following error message:  \"Fatal error during installation. \"    The following components failed to install:  - .NET Framework 3.5
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:57 am
				by IHaveTurbos
				Try downloading it from here and then restart the install of eCtune.    
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:00 am
				by jpjackson
				aem uego sucks, i had one and i was running analog and had a -70 offset for the guage and ectune to read the same, at idle and cruising that is, at wide open it would read leaner than it was. i pmed calvin a while bake and he recommended innovate lc-1 or lm-2, mainly for the direct serial support.   
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/reso ... ootout.pdf  check out this link, its kind of old but helpful, they test all wide bands on the market, and guess what, innovate comes out on top. i have had no problems with my lc-1, plus your can calibrate the sensor, ngk is the only other wide band you can calibrate that i know off
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:53 am
				by pandorasbox
				Alright, after some battling I managed to download .Net framework 2.0 SP1 and then update it to 3.5, time to toy around with this program!  
