AntiLag: My expirance, whats yours?

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:36 am

Calvin, I was doing a little research; it seems everyones softouch revlimiter is based upon dropping ignition to cylinders only.... Based upon this I would assume drop a cylinder, retard ignition for following cylinder, then the next cylinder will fire and see if it needs to drop 2, etc... I dunno my best guess

is it the ECU wanting to go through a cycle of 4 cylinders the part you are trying to overcome?

Post by **calvin** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:38 am

been there done that... working on something

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Fri May 09, 2008 3:22 pm

Had to ask

TopMountGSR · Post by **TopMountGSR** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:14 am

We used 50 degrees retard and 30 fuel with ignition cut and good lord it was the loudest anti lag I've ever heard and we have several turbo honda's and acura's in our shop and none are like this. It really sounded like a gun that some one keeps firing over and over. It was loud enough that the owner of the shop car is scared to use it. Also his tach goes crazy when he uses it. Is anti lag hard on my wideband o2 sensor? I know its hard on a lot, like it can bend turbo shafts, blow and damage turbo seals, crack manifolds and exhaust components to say the least. I personally have it on my turbo gsr and can build 13psi @ 6500 w cr0me gold [I have a single car license ectune pro bundle for it, just haven't put it on there] but I don't use it in fear of damaging a 1000$ turbo.

sasquatch · Post by **sasquatch** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:21 pm

i have mine set for 50 FV and 15 deg retard and spoolls the turbo to 15psi with vertiually no pops or anything pretty much you only hear turbo spooling it works great. i wasn't expect a hard launch the first time i tried it. it felt like i broke my neck.

Post by **Bugermass** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:46 pm

TOPMOUNT: The honda ECU will not go more than -6 deg no matter how much you tell antilag to retard. SASQUATCH: If your not getting pops, then more than likely your using fuel cut instead of ignition cut.. Eitherway will build boost, but ignition cut is a bit faster..

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:53 am

But if you do it from -50 to -40 retard, there is a difference on the antilag between the 2.

Post by **Bugermass** » Mon May 12, 2008 3:14 am

really?? I'll have to try that.. I always do like minus 20 or 30 cause it'll always be -6 with that amount.. I wonder why theres a difference from 40 - 50 .. you final ignition would be -6 in either case.. uNless you gettin FV and retard mixed up..

sasquatch · Post by **sasquatch** » Mon May 12, 2008 7:42 am

Bugermass wrote:TOPMOUNT: The honda ECU will not go more than -6 deg no matter how much you tell antilag to retard. SASQUATCH: If your not getting pops, then more than likely your using fuel cut instead of ignition cut.. Eitherway will build boost, but ignition cut is a bit faster..

i acctually have it set to cut both ignition and fuel when hitting the rev limiter

JaredKaragen · Post by **JaredKaragen** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:32 am

Bugermass wrote:really?? I'll have to try that.. I always do like minus 20 or 30 cause it'll always be -6 with that amount.. I wonder why theres a difference from 40 - 50 .. you final ignition would be -6 in either case.. uNless you gettin FV and retard mixed up..

Nope I am talking about retard.. we are on the same page.... it is odd though. -50 is way different than -40; from what I have seen. Most duely noted first when I was doing the tests N/A. No big pops untill sufficent retard.

crx303 · Post by **crx303** » Tue May 13, 2008 12:41 pm

When I look at my graphs, I find -6 as max ignition retard during ALS and I set it to 40 degrees (Ignition Retard). But how do the settings work? Static ignition, ignition retard, Apply to final ignition (which is greyed out, but gets enabled if I enable and disable Use static ignition value ?

Post by **calvin** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:37 pm

Apply to final ignition.. e.g. final ign(table+corrections) = 16 deg - 6deg (antilag) = 10 deg to dizzy Normal anti-lag: final ign = table + correction - anti-lag = x to dizzy Static anti-lag: final ign = ANTI-lag static value(e.g. -6) -6 is the lowest you can go

crx303 · Post by **crx303** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:03 pm

Thanks, but why is the checkbox \"Apply to final ignition\" Greyed out always?

Post by **calvin** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:09 pm

yes because it's always applied to final ignition. it's there from older version

TopMountGSR · Post by **TopMountGSR** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:32 pm

Bugermass wrote:TOPMOUNT: The honda ECU will not go more than -6 deg no matter how much you tell antilag to retard.

Ok cool, I just typed in 50 degrees retard because on the first page you said you used on the first page. I understand though, it retards the timing as much as it can. So is it hard on my wideband sensor?