can some one take a look at my cal. and log

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:08 am

sweet, ya go ahead and post your cal. so i can compare the battery offsets between yours and my maps. i will disable closed loop and my way to the shop this morning and see how she does, but right now she is running great, even with closed loop. i know that it isn't the correct way to tune, but its only enabled on cruising and light throttle so about 50% throttle and up its in open loop and running great, so pretty much i just need to disable it and tune my cruising and light throttle portions of my map. i will re post my cal. and a log when i get to work and see how it did. did you look at my cal. and log? is there something wrong with my injector offset and battery comp tables? my afrs are close to where they need to be.

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:13 am

another question? how does ectune do the closed loop look up? does it use the current fuel maps or does it just correct based on the closed loop voltage target? just trying to understand the operation of everything. once again thanks for the help guys!!!!

DSMR · Post by **DSMR** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:43 pm

My settings are different because I am using the newer DSM injectors and they are slightly different. But I just made you a good base map you should be able to tweak and get close. Its using JDM P30 map for a base but I inputed all your injector values so it should be close. So this should be a strong base map for your car. Put it in and let the car warm up. After its FULLY warm (ect is 170 or greater) adjust the injector offset to get it to 14.5 or so. After that it is going to need to be smoothed out still. Make most of your begining corrections by selecting the whole column rather than just one point. Get that close and go back to smooth and make minor corrects in spots if needed. Let me know how it goes. Also, when you making big column corrections, do it in 2d mode and make sure that no lines overlap. This is a turbo map so it should be really smooth for the most part.

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:56 pm

awesome, thanks dude!!

i greatly appreciate it. i will give that a try and let you know how it goes. the map i have works great on wot but as for light and part throttle is where i am having my problems. i did turn off closed loop on my way to work and did some more tweeking and she is doing better, but i will give your map a try. once again thanks a million!!!!!

i want to check what you did as far as timing on that map u made first and i will give it a try

DSMR · Post by **DSMR** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:12 pm

Timing is conservative. I pulled 1.75/psi so it should be fine with the amount of boost you are running. Boost cut is at 11psi, this might need to be lowered if your map reads low. I wouldnt mess with timing until the fuel maps are in order. I would also wait to really go into the timing maps until you are on a dyno where it can get dialed in.

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:29 pm

i was just talking about what the timing is compared to my current map, but i am warming up the car now with ur map, so we wil see how she does

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:08 pm

ok dsmr, i am going to do some more playing with the map u made me. i warmed her completely up and ran injector calibration and ended up taking away like 33 and idle was fine right at 14.5-14.6, but then i drove it and she fell on her face and leaned right out, so i rolled back to my other map so i could get home, i had to pick up my daughter so i didnt have any more time to play with it so i will try some more tomorrow. ant suggestions?

DSMR · Post by **DSMR** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:36 pm

It just needs to be tweaked. I would try a lower fuel offset. I used 18 with my setup but again that is with the new DSM injectors. I imagine that they would be similar. Make sure your Fuel pressure is stock then set the offset to like 18. See what that nets as far as idle AFR. Then just dial it in on the map and smooth it out. It should be pretty close. The reason it is falling on its face is that its leaning out on you because of the offset you had to put. But keep trying and messing with it and you will get it. I also recomend looking at many other maps for comparison. My first map looked like crap too so just keep messing with it and you will get it figured out.

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:38 pm

yo,dsmr my set up is as follows: SOHC ZC eagle rods vitaras golden eagle block guard arp head studs all internals balanced mild port and polish on the head dsm 450cc injectors tubular equal length turbo manifold XS power t3 .42 cold a/r â€¢ .48 Hot â€¢ 2\" OUTLET â€¢ TURBINE WHEEL: EXDUCER: 1.81\", MAYOR : 2.48\" â€¢ COMPRESSOR WHEEL: EXDUCER: 1.67\", MAYOR : 2.36\" custom 3 inch down pipe drop to 2.75 before shifter and then to 2.5 before it makes turn before the gas tank. tial 38mm waste-gate w/ open dump tube(annoyingly loud) i need to plumb it in to the down pipe tial blow off valve custom 2.5 inch inter-cooler piping msd ign on stock coil and i am running a p28 ecu and i think that is about it, i might of forgotten something though i was just curious why you used a p30 b16 map, i am running a d16 jdm SOHC ZC

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:39 pm

im going to play with it more on my lunch break and see if i can get it tuned in

DSMR · Post by **DSMR** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:51 pm

Well the reason I used the JDM p30 is because I have never had any issues with it and it is the most developed platform. I tried using some other settings one time and I had an issue that can not remember at the moment. This I guess is a bad habit from using crome I guess but this way has always worked 100% for me. What I did was port in all the timing maps and fuel maps from a p28 map. Now on your setup.. This could deffinatley be a little bit more to tune. I would imagine that it will want a bit more fuel and timing. What C:R are your Vitaras? I have heard that some of them were different for some reason.

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:10 pm

i originally assumed 8.5:1 but then i did some research and found that fjt makes custom length rods for vitaras that puts them at 8.5:1 and that using stander ed length rods it was more like 7.75:1 so its kinnda low i would assume but my setup makes plenty of power and my turbo makes 8 psi at like 3200 rpm so there isn't any problem there, the pistons are made by Nippon racing specifically for Honda's so they might be at 8.5:1, not sure. but i haven't had a compression problem, i did a compression test when i first built the motor and all 4 where at 115 psi, and after i broke her in after 1500 miles of easy driving and only 3.5 psi of boost i did another compression test and 1-3 were at 110 and 4 was 108. so i don't think my c.r is a problem, i wasn't doubting you on the p30 map, i was just curious as to why you used that and not a p06 since i am non-vtec, i also read that the p75 was used for the zc in japan so i was just curious, im still learning but you have been a lot of help and i greatly appreciate it. let me know what you think

jpjackson · Post by **jpjackson** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:57 am

yo, whats up? did you guys forget about me? anyways, here is my latest cal. and log. Ive smoothed my maps out and been working with it. let me know what you guys think. DSMR, i haven't had a chance to work with the map you made me yet, hopefully i will this weekend.